digest including the fact a new secretary of state is going to be presumably confirmed by the senate, john kerry. and yet in the financial times as we do this interview it is hillary clinton and the questions she faced about the death of our ambassador and others in benghazi and her warning to an administration and her successor in the financial times headlines about mali. clinton fears a new haven. does he anticipate for north africa in a way he couldn't have anticipated when he comes into office is now unstable, think about tunisia, egypt, libya. and there's a great deal of potential for an al qaeda 3.0 to really take root and become a major problem for this administration. >> i think that it's a real concern. there's real reason why secretary of state clinton said it as kind of a parting warning because al qaeda is filling in the empty spaces. and with the revolution in libya, the incredible arms flow there, al qaeda people who've been trained in afghanistan and come back to the ma greb and able to -- pretty much with impunity. for the united states it hasn't been an area of vital inter